We are busy bunch over here and rarely sit at a desk. We are usually in the workshop using machines and painting. We found it is best to communicate via email. Plus our business number was getting spammed by robo calls and salesman trying to sell us stuff we would never use. It seemed like they new when we were painting. Anyway we removed our phone number from the web to get away from that mess. If you would like us to call you back please leave you number below. We will be calling from a 315 area code.